Skinner a Healthy Scratch for 3 Straight Games, Ducharme Has Bergevin's Support
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How teams fare after replacing a coach midseason would actually make a good deep dive video, I think, possibly even with some magnetic madness involved.
Skinner knew what he was getting himself into by going to Buffalo. He chose being close to home vs winning. 🤷🏻♂️
People forget, after the all star break (during Skinner’s 40 goal season), Skinner completely fell off a cliff. I’m not exactly accurate with this, but he had something like 1 or 2 goals in 23 games. He was an insane goal scorer in the first half and then he became the player we’ve seen today. It’s a shame for the Sabres, but a huge W for Skinner because I have NO CLUE how a GM handed him 9 million a year...especially after slowing down hard that second half of the season . Edit- After February 2019, Skinner had a total of 6 goals. July 2019- Skinner signs a 9mil a year contract extension.
I’m the 1000th like!!!
Isles send Ladd Komorov and a 7th for Skinner! ( plus Rick DiPietris’s contact and his revolutionary style Signed Milbury Stick )
skinner really giving karlsson, price and bobrovski a run for their money for worst contract in the league
Is Jack Eichel also a health scratch tonight?
Wonder how long before GM eichel takes his talents elsewhere.
Vegas doesn’t play till Saturday
Skinner sucks and I knew his signing was foolish. He is no Ovechkin who scores 45 every year.
What goal scorer would do well playing 10 minutes even strength and with 4th liners like Lazar? Even last year Skinner played with loser players. Would Mike Bossy score goals playing 10 minutes and with the 4th line? Liane cried he played only 2nd line, what would he say if he played on Buffalo and was on 4th line with AHL players? Anyone who knows hockey would tell you that chemistry, icetime and who you play with matters. Would Gretzky score 215 points playing 13 minutes vs 27 minutes?
Martin Lapointe will be the Habs next General Manager. The GM has to have more muscles than all the players thats the rule.
Suggestion for your back wall. Paint the NHL logo on it, the white makes it look like you just moved in
@Greg C just saying it looks like a dorm room, I get its kinda his man cave room but there's just a bunch of stuff hung up on a blank wall it needs something that to bring it all together. Especially if you see some of the other sports memorabilia rooms being shown now a days on FIboth Shannon's seems pretty blan in comparison even though he has so much stuff.
You are weird
“I can speak robot” [struggles to give robotic outro]
Should be interesting but Toffoli is in the top 5 in goals... maaaaybe a bit much to throw him on the third line. Regardless, I'm excited. It would be really weird if MB was fired but I get why he would be and why you'd say it. The reason it would be weird is that this is the first season in a while where fans put their MB voodoo dolls in the drawer lol. We actually like him now but I'd understand if he gets canned if we flop. I've really liked his trades though which is weird to say
I seriously wonder if Miller had Covid and is still recovering. I know they said he tested negative and it was just a precaution but he's not the same player as last year.
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Hi cats
Why is Miller getting targeted. He one of the only Canucks that can score goals lol
Because the coach is clueless. The Canucks have some ridiculous talent and it's being wasted. I feel like throwing up.
Look I loved Skinner when he was in Carolina but as soon as I saw the term and price I knew Buffalo was in trouble. I mean everyone did but I didnt think he would fall off this fast and this badly.
I LOVE the way you butcher Czech names!! Language barriers always bring all kinds of craziness :D
Put Skinner on the top line for a couple weeks, not for a shift here and there, let them get some chemistry.
I know being a canucks fan is tough, but man seeing buffalo the way its been for a decade is just depressing man...
Danault is hot garbage. #Habs
He is a shutdown center. His offense was never his appeal. His career high in goals is like 13.
lol canucks wingers are fine its there defense, can they try clearing the zone without sending it up the middle lol
Skinner should be getting top6 minutes but has been relegated to a bottom 6 position for nearly 3 seasons in a row. no one should be surprised he isn’t producing when he’s being forced to play less than 10 mins a night with subpar line mates. they paid him 9 million/year after he was on Eichel’s line and now they expect that same production from him in a bottom 6 role? gtfoh
They tried him on the top line for a few games this year and he was not effective. He just hasn't been good enough.
Good news for the Panthers: Ottinger is starting and the Dallas brick wall is taking the night off Bad news for the Panthers: Bobrovsky is starting.
LOL!😂
Excpecting a high scoring game. Bob lets in 3+
Toffoli on the third line tonight against the Jets is fine by me
At one point a few years ago I was seriously concerned one more big hit might end skinners career.
Skinner needs to be bought out. This is way, I wasn’t a fan of them trading for him. He’s not consistent
@Zach Hamill Montreal just fired their coach, Buffalo has had 4 coaches and 4 GMs in a short time, why keep a coach who’s not any good? He thought that Tage Thompson was a top line or even an NHL player lol. Clueless. Skinner has a full no trade/movement clause, you can’t trade him no team has cap space and who wants all the back contracts in return? Might as well fire the loser coach who doesn’t know how to coach and get Skinner a center. Penguins would always play a guy with Mario to pad his stats then trade him, why make a trade from a negative position? Trade a guy when his value is high if you don’t want him. You can’t buy out Skinner as the team would be screwed with cap for 12-14 years. Any coach who takes a guy who is a goal scorer then plays him with the 4th line is a guy looking to get fired. It’s not like Skinner just had one good year, he’s scored 4-30 goal seasons, Hall has only one good year 39 goals. I played on a baseball team and coach didn’t like me, he played me 9th batter and I still led the team in. Batting average, the next year my cousin was coach and I batted clean up and led team in every category, the other coach would bench me in games I was 2-2 or 3-3, loser coach.
@Charlie B I don’t think it’s as easy as you’re making it out to be. This is a legitimate problem.
@Zach Hamill just fire coach and bring in a center for Skinner, Staal can walk at seasons end. Very simple
$2.5 million against the cap for the next 12 years if the Sabres buy out Jeff skinner. I’m not even a Sabres fan, but in my opinion, that hurts the team even more. That’s $2.5 million wasted for over a decade, which is essentially a good third line player money. I think you ride out Skinner for AT LEAST 2 more years (assuming no trade), and see what happens. If everything is still a disaster, then you pull the buyout trigger. You never know, maybe he bounces back next year. Maybe even bounces back this year when he gets back into the lineup. Right now it’s just an exhausting waiting game. I don’t even like the Sabres, but seeing him only have 1 assist with that contract legitimately hurts my brain.
Could any goal scorer in league history score goals playing on 4th line? You do know that the best goal scorers in league history all played with great talent around them, look who passes the puck to Ovie, Look who passed the puck to Mike Bossy, or Brett Hull. Marner passes the puck to Matthews, who does skinner play with? Curtis Lazar and Skinner plays 10 minutes a night even strength, no goal scorer in NHL history has scored 40 goals playing less than 16 minutes a night and with talent around him. If he's bought out the team will lose cap space for 12 fucking years, 12 years of not having that cap space. a better plan would be to fire the coach. Is Hall having a good year, 8 mill for 1 goal in first game and -10.
News are getting more and more depressing every day
Speaking of Skinner, video idea: Worst contracts in the NHL. (And possibly another video for best contracts)
I think he’s done it in the past, I remember he did a video on worst contracts and best contracts. This was a while ago though. Maybe next offseason when this season is over, we can get an updated one. For me right now, Skinner is hands down #1 with Vlasic (SJS) being #2
Take off that cursed jersey please. It does look nice but some of the worst games
Jeff Skinner=Ville Leino
As a Carolina fan all I can say is..........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Agreed your team is pretty bad
buy out skinner who cares about the long term consequences at this point for buffalo
This coach needs to GO.
Canes don’t look as dumb for trading skinner away for scraps now lol
I would love to see your Ben Stein impression Shannon😁😆
Well, the guy better get the scoring touch back or reinvent his style of game to make himself a valuable player again or it's pretty much over from here. Wow. What a collapse.
Just like they have the Jim Gregory GM of the year award they should also have the Jason Botteril most incompetent GM of the year award
Been following since the season started great channel man! ... as always
That Skinner contract truly is the gift that keeps on giving.
Modern day Jonathan Cheechoo. Pot a ton of goals, get your money, and then take a nice seat on the couch!
Skinner Contract; the herpes of hockey
lol
Why does Bergevin still have Molsons support is the real question
@Ocean Shrugs This team is a perennial bottom feeder who cares about a couple of trades.
Patches trade looks good right now, Galchenyuk for Domi was a win, Domi for Anderson right now is a win. Signing Toffoli and Allen. Our depth is nuts. Our goaltending is awesome. He somehow made a pretty good team
I expect the Habs to come out with fire in their eyes tonight.
I really feel for Sabres fans.
i thought this was like, "oh no he got Bergevin's Syndrome " or smth
I don't really watch the Sabre's games that much, has Skinner really played badly or is his production just sputtering? Is he a defensive liability? Does he look uninterested on the ice?
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I need Werenski to start producing on my fantasy team. I didn’t expect him to repeat the same pace as last year but still thought he’d get at least 25 points....
Skinner is probably thinking i could retire with that 9mil lol.
@kola sillers but luongo did
You can not just retire and getting paid 😂
someone who knows stuff about buyouts: if jeff does get bought out can he still sign a contract with a different team to play somewhere else??
Yes he can but the sabres would never buy him out at this stage because if they do buy him out they would have a cap penalty of probably upwards of 2.3million for the next 14years, they would be better off just trying to trade him while retaining a percentage of his salary so it would not affect them for as long
Im lovin how Ottey is playing in net but against the Panthers who are throwing 30+ shots on goal im not throwin him in net. Though the D have covered for him pretty well. My only problem with him is it takes him awhile to reset
I’m not sure, but I’m guessing Skinner has a NMC in his contract, but Buffalo could explore the possibility of leaving him open in the expansion draft, and if he doesn’t get picked up I would buy him out . What a disappointment
That's insane with that contract
Ralph Krueger is an imbecile disguised as a snake oil salesman
Dustin Brown is 5th in the league in goals and almost at a point per game.
That actually suprises me
Sabres should just put him in the line-up they're not that great regardless. Maybe yell at him a little bit.
Give my Cats some love , Best start in the clubs History. When do you see them bringing up young goalie Spencer Knight ? Bob has been dreadful .
There are 10 million reasons they can't
Which timezone are you in Shannon? I'm always wondering what time it is over there when I'm watching in the morning 😁 greetings from Finland
Can a player retire and sign another contract to a team he wants to sign with? Or when a player retires, he has to be retired till the end of a contract
Skinner for duchane and Buffalo adds a high draft pick. Both bad contracts for about the same length of time with 1 million dollar difference, hence the draft pick
I actually only clicked on this news video to see if Scandella or Blais was hurt last night, or if another of the Blues broke something in practice. We really had a five - six game streak of losing a key player per game. Tis insane.
Leino,Moulson, okposo, skinner.....who's next up on the terrible contract sweepstakes in buffalo?
You can add Eichel, Hall and Bogosian to that list.
I don’t know how you keep track of all this information! If you still have a day job especially! 👍
This is his job ;)
Not even a Habs fan but, hot damn, that get up is CLEAN. 👌
Plus the RR jersey is clean too! Cursed, but clean.
It's an easy Logo to make look good. Has a spiderman kinda feel to it for me.
If you buy out Skinner after this season, you're paying him into next decade, his contract is that awful.
Scandella got hit in the face with a puck last night. There’s your daily blues injury
Thanks for making my morning Shannon!!❤️
Bergevin will move up Bouchard from the Rocket to the CH next year, pretty sure of it.
That would leave a huge hole with the Rocket and put back player development, which is the exact reason why they got him.
No way are Jets looking for a top 6 winger we have a surplus
It would probably be better to try to trade Skinner with a sweeter and some cap retention than buying him out. It's a boatload of dead money for a huge term.
darn i liked chlapik... hope things work out for him in europe
I don’t see them getting rid of bergevin what he did in the offeaseon and most of his trades benefited the team
Stepan is always injured
For the algorithm
Maybe they're going to make/force Skinner get rid of his NMC and trade him. I dont know. Yea, I know he got more than he should've gotten, however, he got paid that to play with Eichel. And he's not playing with Eichel enough. I couldn't even say when the last time he played a full game being on the Eichel line.
Unfortunately I don’t think anybody is touching that contract
@Friendcallmejj Christ that's all San Jose need is another big contract like that!
@Friendcallmejj Haha wow would never happen, unfortunately...
@CoDINmyHEART the only rumor that I’ve consistently seen involving a skinner trade is with San Jose. But that’s it.
who the fuck would take him? none
Always as
So Skinner is really challenging Erik Karlsson for the worst contract in the NHL, gotta love how every move Buffalo makes backfires in a major way and this is just another example of that
@Ahmed Saddik That is fair I think that skinner's and bob's are the worst in the league by a long shot
@Ahmed Saddik might be worth it to give Dahlin a chance to play with Karlsson. At least Karlsson would actually play and not sit in the press box. Who knows
@sabresman31 but then you would have an extra 2.5 million of a terrible contract
I think they should trade Skinner for Karlsson straight up
@Moe Barnard Seidel Ya and Karlsson is 11.5 million for constantly getting hurt, and then when he is healthy he is unable to play in his own end and score any points, and Skinner can't even crack the lineup on the Buffalo Sabres lol.
Jeff Skinner shouldn't be on the 4th line. If you watch the Sabres games Jeff Skinner creates scoring changes playing with Riley Sheahan and Curtis Lazar. He's getting paid 9 million a year cause he can consistently score 5 on 5 like he did with Carolina and Buffalo 2018 19 season he should be playing with Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart on the 1st line.
In defense of Krueger, he has lost his position in the top 6. Olofsson performs with Eichel better than him because he isn't as hot and cold and Cozens has performed good enough to earn a spot. So it leaves him as a bottom six forward which he isn't.
@BJP 19 olofsson has done nothing 5v5 so that logic is very dumb
@DK, yes Krueger is bad. However, he was in the top 6 when Reinhart missed a few games and he still did nothing.
Kruger is not good. He set skinner up for failure then punished him when he fails. Skinner should be top 6, he let tage thompson start the season on the top 6 and never gave skinner a chance. He’s a terrible coach.
THG reads form letters! Now that's an off season series I'd watch.
One 63 point season for Skinner followed by an insane contract (63 was his ceiling at Carolina). Sounds like a Canes thing under Rutherford (see Alexander Semin). Skinner's 40 goal season, he scored 6 goals after Feb. 2019. 20 total to date. Maybe those conclusions with the Canes caught up with him? Serious question.
People forget that he only had those 6 goals after February. I remember he had something like 1 or 2 goals in 20 games. It seemed that part of the season was COMPLETELY ignored during contract negotiations... I completely understand why Buffalo signed him. They couldn’t let him walk after they finally had a player who can score for them. That being said, there was zero reason to hand him 9 million. His career never suggested a 9 million dollar player. There needed to be a point where Buffalo says “We’re desperate to bring you back, but we’re not that desperate”. Would’ve completely changed the future of that team, that’s a ton of depth they could’ve added with that money!
Everyone except for buffalo knew that contract was horrible the moment it was signed, hard to respect players who have their best career year the same time as they are upcoming UFAs
It's pretty damning for Skinner considering the first game he is scratched, his linemate Lazar scores (and is up to 4 goals on the season), and the second game Skinner is scratched, Asplund scores (who was called up as the replacement for injured Toby Reider instead of Skinner).
@Lukas K you even referencing +/- is embarrassing. That stat is useless. Eichel is -66, average that out for as many years as skinner has played and he’s just as bad. So yeah maybe look at his production before he had an unproven, shit coach.
@DK it's not just that. Sinners career +/- is -120. That's mindblowing!!! For example Nino Niederaider who was drafted same year and played for Min (not very good team) and Car has career +/- +28. Taylor Hall (same draft class) who hasn't been on winning teams has -50 career +/-. Nowhere close to -120.
@Lukas K you’re bringing up +/- on the worst team in the league. Eichel would suck with that logic. And yeah he’s talented, which this teams lacked even when he scored 40 goals. Something that keeps great players great? Yeah it’s called linemates. He’s been bad since Krueger came and buried him in the lineup. Maybe it’s because you’re not a fan but you clearly have zero clue what’s going on.
@DK lol I'm not Sabres fan, don't care about the coach. All I'm saying is that Skinner doesn't have that "something" that keeps great players great. He HAS talent and is well liked by teammates. It's just a problem with motivation for him I guess. -22 +/- from last season is telling.
@Lukas K yeah 20+ goals every year until Krueger but let’s build around a coach who’s proved absolutely nothing in this league. He hasn’t said anything about being benched, no negative stories, nothing. You’re just trusting an unproven coach. Genius.
Jeff Skinner isn’t an NHL quality player. His buyout will last until 2032-33.
Buying him out after this season would be even more of a problem. I think they have to ride him out for at least 2 more years and see what happens. If they were to buy him out, they’d be spending $2.5 million until 2033....woof. That’s essentially a good third liner’s contract for 12 years.
Idk showing up to a press box to eat hotdogs and drink beer for 9 mil until 2027 sounds pretty good.
that outro threw me off lol
I have seen the first training of Ducharme with Alex Burrows...Burrows is on fire, non-stop giving directives it's a little intense...Not a fun training today for the lazy, i'm telling you...Ducharme too, he is really active ! The team seems really happy too...Good signs !
@Paula Deen He's now part of the coaching staff for Montréal
Burrows plays for them?
As a Kings fan I'm excited by the way the team is playing. They will go as far as the Figueroa Five takes them.
I dont see how buffalo will be competitive with the skinner contract My guess is eichel moves this summer To La Kings
Don’t think Skinner should be on the bench. If they’re paying him 9 Million a year he should be out there at least
It is possible that he could be poisoning the locker room or he is not showing effort on the ice which could have destructive consequences in the eyes of the other players. It is also possible he may have asked for time off to straighten up his head. We really don’t know from the outside what is going on and the team is smart not to say anything to the media.
I agree at least give him a chance to earn it ..
Is there a bad contract that the Sabres WON’T sign?
No new Blues injuries? Hazzah!
and everyone laughed at Hayes' contract
Did anyone think Skinner would score 40 goals sign a new contract then play they next two seasons with 4th line players? Could Mike Bossy have scored with his icetime cut and on a 4th line? Could Alexander Ovechkin score 50 goals playing 12 minutes a night with Curtis Lazar? Anyone who doesn’t understand how a coach can rank a guys career is crazy
I also thought the argument of “Other teams would’ve gave Skinner 9 million” is false. I know for a fact I didn’t want my bruins to give him that money and I know a bunch of teams knew better! I completely understand why they had to re-sign him, but one great season didn’t warrant him 9 million a year 😂. I respect the hell out of Skinner getting his money bags though, what a beast. Whoever his agent is did him a solid!!
To be fair no one and I mean no one was saying skinners contract is good
I mean hockey fans laughed at the Draisaitl contract. Hockey fans aren't exactly intelligent.
@Dillon Hume no clue why
Cheer up shannon nucks win tonight!
A lot of people thought the contract was bad when they signed it. Now it's one of the worst contracts in league history.
Surprised you didn't talk about the Matthews wrist injury in the post-game or news videos. He couldn't take faceoffs last game after the hit from Andersson, and he's been battling one as well all season.
Didn't Skinner have a lot of serious concussion problems at the start of his career? Not surprising his career is basically over already
JT Miller has had dumb turnovers and coasted his way back but he’s still producing ... unlike Virtanen :/ feel like this is just Green gambling to try get a spark
@Ahmed Saddik a lot of bad contracts are gone this offseason and the rest apart from Myers are gone end of next season.
yup .... tho Edler analytics have been great actually and Myers been looking decent recently. And Juolevi has been a pleasant surprise. Just need Hughes to tighten up and Schmidt to.... figure out what to do in our system lol biggest problem has been that we look like a blue line without enough practice - that should change nkw
@Trevor Philips well the entire blueline is a disaster. Myers is a pileon, Hughes can only go on the offense but can't play in his own end, Edler has been a disaster. I mean the blueline has been an issue for years but they had Markstrom stealing them games so it masked that issue. Now that they have ok goaltending that are not stealing games it is much more obvious of a problem
we had Toffoli and Benning got a hard on for OEL :/ that said, Schmidt should have a good pickup - he’s underperforming hard... that’s more on him or Green
How Benning in the offseason did not try and get a top 6 forward is beyond me but boy is there cap situation bad, guys like Schmidt, Myers, Loui have been disastrous contracts and then there is the Beagle and Roussel contracts which are also shit contracts too, gotta love Jim Benning right haha
I honestly think that the Habs are gonna come out flying tonight. Whenever a team gets a new coach after struggling for a good bunch of games in a row, the team tends to rally together and even temporarily show up and win a game or two.
@Caleb Chramow ahhh. Makes sense.
@DMAC26 I didn't comment here. I commented this on another vid. FIboth has been weird lately. I comment one place and my comment gets duplicated somewhere else. Its weird.
@Caleb Chramow wrong place to comment this?
Agreed, but nobody knew it would be the worst contract in history.
@Pumpkin King yup. I'd call it a honeymoon phase haha.