Philips crazy Ski Slope Cassette Deck

1.05.2021
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As unusual cassette decks go - the 1970s Philips changers are some of the oddest.
00:00 Intro
04:18 The ‘Repair’
26:05 First Demo
30:13 Prices & History
32:38 More Demo
36:39 Wrap Up
38:22 Credits
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Bi-colour Tapes from www.tapeline.info
EXTRA INFO
It’s very likely one reason the tapes didn’t always locate perfectly in the mechanism is because I was using short custom-wound tapes. As these have less tape inside...they will also have less weight than the average C90. When I ordered them I had no idea the tolerances in the machine would be so fine with regard to tape weight. My intention was to use the short lengths to demonstrate the continuous tape recycling feature activated by the tape end sensor...without having to wait for a full length tape to reach the end. In addition most new cassette shells are a bit rougher and more angular than ones from back in the 1970s - they'd be more smoothed off with rounder edges, and as a result they'd be far less likely to get caught up against the sides of the cassette well.

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Kommentteja
  • fantastic video! Nice show of old-time products. I like your elaborate explanation of the stuff you did

    marcel dohmenmarcel dohmen5 tuntia sitten
  • Alternate Title: *How To Get Over A Million FIboth Subscribers*

    David Sky WalkerDavid Sky Walker6 tuntia sitten
    • Subtext: *A Story of Time, Effort, and Passion*

      David Sky WalkerDavid Sky Walker6 tuntia sitten
  • So the 80s and 90s version of a jukebox

    Michael RahamanMichael Rahaman7 tuntia sitten
  • 28:32 to watch it work properly.

    Larry The lobsterLarry The lobster8 tuntia sitten
  • "Hindsight is 2020, and it's 2021 now" oh now that made me chuckle :)

    SattersSatters9 tuntia sitten
  • 10:56 Looking at that page in the manual the belts and pulleys have corresponding letters on them to tell you where they connect to. The belto on the left has and arrow and a P which corresponds to the pulley on the right which has an arrow and a P.

    Chris MillerChris Miller10 tuntia sitten
  • Beautiful

    Jaysef GamesJaysef Games12 tuntia sitten
  • I watch this video, fast-forwarded it, reversed, and now I have magnetic tape all over the living room! Does anyone have a pencil?! Never watch FIboth on VHS. This could take a while...

    AegelisAegelis17 tuntia sitten
  • Crazy. I can't believe this made it to market.

    FPChrisFPChris19 tuntia sitten
  • incredible work. loot of effort. thanks!

    Dario FajreDario Fajre21 tunti sitten
  • Can you imagine how mental it would be if VHS tapes had sides like audio tapes and there was an equivalent for them?

    bsharpmajorscalebsharpmajorscale22 tuntia sitten
  • It's actually a wonder that any engineer all those decades ago even created something so mechanically/electronically complex!

    ERdoc0ERdoc0Päivä sitten
  • there is no fun in life anymore... people are just downloading and streaming stuff... no excitement whatsoever

    fidan2fastfidan2fastPäivä sitten
  • "Im not particular good reparing....." yeah right! 😃

    Magnus EhnMagnus EhnPäivä sitten
  • Hello, 10:50

    Ba NujBa NujPäivä sitten
  • Everything was so simple before IC’s, and I can’t believe before the internet we used to copy basic and machine language from zap magazines to write programs on our C64s

    Colin StablesColin StablesPäivä sitten
  • this dude is amazing

    AmplifyAmplifyPäivä sitten
  • Super Cool 😎

    Nick NorrisNick NorrisPäivä sitten
  • You say you found it difficult to get your head around how it worked, But what I always think about when working on an old electromechanical device like that is "I've got the easy job of just trying to see how it works....... There were some poor sods who originally got tasked with thinking out an entire mechanism to make some marketing guy's idea into a real thing". Some of the later electromechanical machines I've had apart have been truly spectacular with their Rube Goldberg level of complexity. With no real electronic controls to speak of, all the logic within the devices had to be done via mechanical means. Some of the convoluted ways engineers had to come up with to do, what now would be seen as a simple task, used to make me wonder how the device could ever have been reliable enough to be classed as a "Finished product" even when new? Today engineers can most of the time pretty much do the same job, cheaper and more reliably, with a couple of stepper motors and less processing power than you'd find in a cheap digital watch ! :)

    Reman1975Reman1975Päivä sitten
  • Just sampled the weird sound of the tape change. Nice rhythmic toc'di'cluck. No wonder that this thing was a non-seller.

    Olmor FrazzleOlmor FrazzlePäivä sitten
  • Why so relatively pristine inside? Seriously would like to know...

    RinnerRinnerPäivä sitten
  • I enjoyed this greatly, thank you. Now we have music MP3 folders looped playlists or streaming, but that ski slope mechanism is sublime. Some bright soul needs to build a multimedia animation, with sound effects, of that structure changing when a new music folder/artist is played - I would buy it ;)

    BeamerBeamerPäivä sitten
  • This was one of those rare cassette changers that are not available to the US. If there was a US version of this cassette changer, it was made by Ampex when it was part of the Micro series.

    MTN - A Rainbow Pastures CompanyMTN - A Rainbow Pastures CompanyPäivä sitten
  • If it could play both sides of the tape before ejecting it, it would be really good for multi-tape audiobooks.

    gothicchocobogothicchocoboPäivä sitten
  • Incredible vid repairing old old audio devices.Huge respect deserved.

    Brian MorecombeBrian MorecombePäivä sitten
  • Excellent video. Apple think iPods were a clever idea. More then one way to skin a cat, reminds me of the Russian method of controlling spacecraft using gears and clockwork in place of the US electronics technology that they didn't have.

    Harry CrabbHarry CrabbPäivä sitten
  • millenials: The adults used simple and boring items me: hold this in your hand, as****

    fechbrdfechbrd2 päivää sitten
  • My first job in 1982 (till '85) was in a electronics repair shop. Worked on a lot of tape players while there, but never saw one of those! Working out how belts go was a challenge at times. Thanks for making the video on it!

    Bill SkorosBill Skoros2 päivää sitten
  • Holy crap, my dad has two of these and they still work. I remember he would set it up at christmas and play tapes. I loved the slide for the tapes.

    lonely zombielonely zombie2 päivää sitten
  • Heath Robinson: Hi, I'm famous for creating excessively elaborate and complicated devices. Philips Cassette Player division: Hold my toolkit.

    Simon FernandesSimon Fernandes2 päivää sitten
  • I generally like these videos but this guy talks more than a bad women. My head just explodes from it.

    line waysline ways2 päivää sitten
  • You could play two sides without listening to another 30 minutes of music by using 2 dummy tapes with zero lenght in autoplay mode

    Rob de VentRob de Vent2 päivää sitten
  • Abslotly speechless... I was born in 1971 ... great.... not a streamer yet!

    Frank EFrank E2 päivää sitten
  • That's fucking cool. I think you want a bunch of dummy extra-short tapes that just push the auto-reverse mechanism around, for when you only have 1 or 2 tapes of music.

    David KnollDavid Knoll2 päivää sitten
  • ..Ahem...did anyone else think the tape would be pinged out at high velocity and flip round the ski slope and plop back in on side two....? or was that just me...

    Chaz NewmanChaz Newman2 päivää sitten
  • That's a pretty complicated mechanism just to play back a big ol' Spotify Playlist

    faselblaDer3tefaselblaDer3te2 päivää sitten
    • ts spotify, a dude with a small collection of 300 records had something to offer, spotify, that is why music became so cheap no effort has to be made, no experience is need overall it's just lame. When Matt and me was young each collector of records had something to offer for your ears, still we own specialties, but spotify and similar only offers what sells adverts, it kills good choice. But still we have vinyls which was never digitized.

      Gernot SchraderGernot Schrader20 tuntia sitten
  • Love the cassete going "Wheee"!

    Rodrigo OliveiraRodrigo Oliveira2 päivää sitten
  • Rube Goldberg is beaming with pride. A commercial failure gets some recognition.

    Curtis LoweCurtis Lowe2 päivää sitten
  • Did you make these tapes so we could visually see side A/B?

    waziammmwaziammm2 päivää sitten
  • I have won more arguments with friends thanks to this man and channel...always love the content!! Long live the old school!

    Jess VolinaJess Volina2 päivää sitten
  • Sir you did GOOD. Bravo! Keep going! YAY

    jody walesjody wales2 päivää sitten
  • Yeah, I don't really care. Too long winded.

    SpeedSpeed2 päivää sitten
  • you're hired

    walldoo99walldoo992 päivää sitten
  • You'd have to be a real glutton for punishment to want to take that on. I used to work in a shop that had a different style for sale and it never worked right. It's not that hard to flip a tape. LOL

    walldoo99walldoo992 päivää sitten
  • Have you ever thought about recording audio ( particularly long radio shows onto DVD. In ep mode you can get up to 6 hours. Plus a timer function is there. if you use dvd ram you can also edit. One of the best machines to use is Panasonics first dvd recorded the DMR E20. The reason this one is better is because it does have a VU meter on the display. They can be found on eBay from £5 to £50. Also please check out my TV repair channel here. Keep it up.

    Allen FleckneyAllen Fleckney3 päivää sitten
  • still better than some cd changer thats in the boot of some 90s bmw or mercedes

    Area51UFOGynaecologyArea51UFOGynaecology3 päivää sitten
  • The inside is a mechanical nightmare XD

    Extreme Analog MusicExtreme Analog Music3 päivää sitten
  • fascinating. thanks for sharing!

    planet rockplanet rock3 päivää sitten
  • Where do you find you archive adverts/magazine/catalogues? I'm always so impressed when the seemingly most obscure or 'useless' documents can be unearthed!

    LiamtotherescueLiamtotherescue3 päivää sitten
  • I like the little lift the bin cover does when it's "eaten" a tape with the six-stack. Burp!

    Paul HayesPaul Hayes3 päivää sitten
  • Ah yes Playlist

    Похождения К0тярыПохождения К0тяры3 päivää sitten
  • I have been in the audio business my whole life, and never encountered this model . Great video.

    LogicalScienceLogicalScience3 päivää sitten
  • Alexa, add Philips Ski Slope Cassette Deck to shopping cart

    DeluxeHDDeluxeHD3 päivää sitten
  • Many of this machines die because of User Rage

    RunMyCodeRunMyCode3 päivää sitten
  • 28:06 Your welcome for those who don't want to click "more"

    Pat Pat PatPat Pat Pat3 päivää sitten
  • Look at my Techmoan merchandise I just bought: fiboth.info/like/videot/kXVmnWmbqLrWkoM

    Skywind007Skywind0073 päivää sitten
  • Very interesting 🍻

    rob brob b3 päivää sitten
  • If you don't have one, you are in desperate need of a tool called a "spring hook" considering all the fiddling you do with old electronics consisting of belts and springs. Until I worked on copiers for a living, I had no idea such a tool existed, but once I become aware of its existence, it became an irreplaceable tool for dealing with both belts and springs. I am adding a link to show you what I am referring to, and the type I have is nearly exactly the same as this save for the lack of the black grip material on the handle as mine is simply knurled steel. It's called a "push and pull spring hook" if you want to look them up, and they generally cost little more than a few US dollars; mine was a bit pricier since I bought it in a brick and mortar store for about $9 USD back in 2010, but I'm sure you can find them for cheap online - the site in the link is selling them for $3.60 USD at time of posting, but I didn't look at their shipping costs. Definitely look into getting one if you don't already, as they will make doing work like this IMMENSELY easier. As a side note, you can also get a spring-loaded "grabber" variant that will hold onto the the spring or belt with the hook under tension for springs and belts that are difficult to place, and I'd be happy to share a photo or link for one of those as well if you are interested. Here is the link showing you what the tool looks like that will make placing belts and springs far easier than using needle-nosed pliers or a screwdriver: tecratools.com/product945.html

    Justin KashtockJustin Kashtock3 päivää sitten
    • For reference, the spring loaded spring hooks are proving difficult to find an image of, but "IC Grabbers" are essentially the same thing and look like this: i.pinimg.com/474x/12/12/8a/12128a3c324e88cc041d8524f0be29f8.jpg It is, for all intents and purposes, a little hook under spring tension that you have to press on the non-hooked end to release the "grabbing" tension of the hooked end, and they are good for moving springs and belts into exact locations that using a spring hook alone cannot accomplish.

      Justin KashtockJustin Kashtock3 päivää sitten
  • Great video! Thanks for posting it!🎧

    bareknuckles2ubareknuckles2u3 päivää sitten
  • 8:50 good god that string routing

    Nelson WongNelson Wong3 päivää sitten
  • When things were designed to take bumps and bruises, nowadays, you bump electronic items and they fall apart.

    Dominick DeSantisDominick DeSantis3 päivää sitten
  • These things are soo cool! Remember I found one that was thrown out. Can't remember if I had to do some work on it, but it must have been minimal. Worked like a charm, no problems with the ski slope at all. Still the coolest cassette player I found in the scraps then was a Bang and Olufson Beocord 5000, absolutely amazing cassette recorder for the time; peak VU meter using bulbs (no LED's at that time), dual capstan and dual motor (no clutch!) and build like a tank weighting in around 8.5 kilos! www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=597

    Morten Vinding SvendsenMorten Vinding Svendsen3 päivää sitten
  • I have a couple of that

    Adriano RonchiAdriano Ronchi3 päivää sitten
  • I bet noe of the reason of the cassette nor cycling properly is the lack of weight on the super short dummies used in the video, i'm pretty sure the weight of a full 90 mins tape would have made it work way better!

    Karsten BeoulveKarsten Beoulve3 päivää sitten
  • How difficult or expensive was it to make read head to read from both side of the tape and both wheels driving wheels?

    Parker ShawParker Shaw4 päivää sitten
  • Thank you for another great video 🙂

    Grant RennieGrant Rennie4 päivää sitten
  • wow.. what an actually really good idea. I can't believe we didn't see this more. You could have background music playing for almost all day.

    BartBart4 päivää sitten
  • I had one, bought it from the NAAFI at RAF Bruggen in Germany.

    colin crawfordcolin crawford4 päivää sitten
  • this shit had me twerkin bro frfr

    Dawn RiveraDawn Rivera4 päivää sitten
  • I have new Sony TC-D5 PRO II for sale

    brandmaster07brandmaster074 päivää sitten
  • Now that’s a pretty smart clever design to auto reverse multiple tapes.

    johney supergdjohney supergd4 päivää sitten
  • Although I am Dutch. Philips should stick to medical equipment. Oh my got. I hope my defibrillator doesn't get stuck. A shocking experience..................

    JeKijkbuisJeKijkbuis4 päivää sitten
  • It is almost as if these "Fruit salad" cassettes are not up to Compact Cassette spec. They look like they are too thin, and probably they are also too light. That might be contributing to the ski slope mechanism operating a bit flaky in the demo.

    LifeIsTooShortForQRPLifeIsTooShortForQRP4 päivää sitten
  • Very interesting device! I have never seen something like this before. Thank you. Side-note: I think it's really funny, that this is "Made in Austria" and the side changing mechanism is called "ski slope" :-D (I'm from Austria ;-) )

    kaefjot08kaefjot084 päivää sitten
  • That was awesome to watch, ty for taking the time to entertain me :)

    Mark LMark L4 päivää sitten
  • Brilliant design :) I miss cassettes...

    Ernst de Roo-StraatemansErnst de Roo-Straatemans4 päivää sitten
  • Cool. Stupid, but cool.

    Dee DoubsDee Doubs4 päivää sitten
  • By the way...watching you amazing videos I was thinking about a cassette tape emulator. I've checked out only yesterday...and I've found wireless (with battery inside) Bluetooth fake cassettes that could receive audio stream and transmit it via the magnetic head, etc.. It would be interesting if you could test these cheap things, measure the noise and frequency range and see how good they are. Some of them have working spools inside (no tape though), they look amazing, although they say the battery is a bit weak. But it could give a true hifi experience via a tape deck eliminating "wow and flutter" and for the first time we could hear how good is the audio circuit in a cassette deck.

    AetilaAetila4 päivää sitten
  • Sony had a similar idea for their VCRs - the Betastack was a similar concept though more engineered. Again, it never caught on and are now very rare.

    g7mzhg7mzh4 päivää sitten
  • Absolute pile of shit

    Damien MillsDamien Mills4 päivää sitten
  • Any aux inputs to use the amp system in it ? a little Bluetooth reciever would be cute.

    High PathHigh Path4 päivää sitten
  • Bit like a record autochanger - they gave rise to the side 1/6 - 2/5 - 3/4 etc disks (in 78 and 45 ?33? format allowing flip of a pile (moving 8 78s in one go is not straightforward), so cassette albums could have been split similar in say the Readers Digest style, the use of different colours for each half shell is also interesting - do I unscew and change all of mine over? Perhaps its day would have come for the era of the Cassingle (when A and B both the same on each side for example).

    High PathHigh Path4 päivää sitten
  • You are a very tenacious person, who claims to not be good at repairing things. HA! Fab job. Never even heard this thing and I had an 8 track tape player- dinosaur era of electronics.

    macformemacforme4 päivää sitten
  • You're doing God's work.

    Nelson GrantzNelson Grantz4 päivää sitten
  • In my opinion, this is a most beautiful work of art. I'm from the old-school time of electrical engineering. Making things work using transistors, capacitors, inductors, resistors, relays, etc... that was fun. I talked to an 'electrical engineering' student a couple of years ago, and his world consists solely of microprocessors and programming.

    Mason TorreyMason Torrey4 päivää sitten
  • Goodwill throws away any donated cassette tapes :(

    e la crosse la cross4 päivää sitten
  • Probably didnt help either to have a repair manual in dutch.

    Hex TrasherHex Trasher4 päivää sitten
  • could you not see why the belt was coming off off the white spool then it was directed upwards there must be a missing bar to stop this great played with a lot of old tech myself, enjoyed your video, thanks

    mic stonemic stone4 päivää sitten
  • It's weird they didn't just use a stepper motor to move the head down by a track, and use another stepper motor to reverse it. This seems obvious (although perhaps more expensive) but at the same time, look at the ridiculous complexity of this design? Also, it looks like at least a 4 tape delay before the 2nd side of the cassette played with a maximum of 7 tapes - maybe 8. God, I don't miss this stuff a bit. It's all hacks and jerry rigging. I'm surprised I'm not seeing twist ties and duct tape in this product - new out of box.

    fuzzywzhefuzzywzhe4 päivää sitten
  • Sometimes a figure of 8 is used in these belts to make sure they don't move around?

    bummersbummers4 päivää sitten
  • Fantastic. I'd say I want one but you might sell it to me.

    Bri BriBri Bri4 päivää sitten
  • when i repair stuff, take a look at it test it, works FINE! i play whit it hours. Leave it, and then someone says its malfunctioning again! Hard to repair broken stuff if its not broken, while repairing :D

    La CaiLa Cai4 päivää sitten
  • You are actually very good at repairing things

    Andrew gAndrew g4 päivää sitten
  • I wonder if the lack of wanting to drop all the way in would be better if the tapes weighed more? Some Maxell or TDK 90 minute cassettes, for example. The ones you've got there sound very light.

    Sean KernsSean Kerns4 päivää sitten
  • 23:23 dudes rock

    ts wts w4 päivää sitten
  • What an interesting machine! Back then, when Philips was playing a big role on the market...

    LuftwolfLuftwolf4 päivää sitten
  • Then an engineer far, far away said, "why don't we just reverse the tape direction and flip the audio head over".

    James WestJames West4 päivää sitten
  • I HAD A NAKAMICHI DRAGON.....COOL FOR THAT TIME !

    offaxisdudeoffaxisdude4 päivää sitten
  • It seems to me that I can never listen to the songs in the B side.

    Pompeo: we lie we cheat we steal!Pompeo: we lie we cheat we steal!4 päivää sitten
  • "It was a solution to a problem that few people needed solving" - sums it up nicely, whilst amusingly understating the lengths they've gone to try to solve the problem.

    Chris WChris W4 päivää sitten
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