Can Perez and Sainz be more than 'number twos' at Red Bull and Ferrari? | The Race F1 Podcast

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This week, Edd Straw, Scott Mitchell and Mark Hughes discuss Sergio Perez's start to life at Red Bull, and how Carlos Sainz Jr will fit in at Ferrari alongside Charles Leclerc. There's also a discussion about who from F1 history we'd like to co-write a book about, and you can get your suggestions into @SMitchellF1 on Twitter to join the debate!
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00:00 Intro
02:59 What can Perez do at Red Bull?
22:54 Where does Sainz fit in at Ferrari?
31:50 What is a modern 'number two'?
40:47 Whose F1 book would you like to write?
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  • Multi 2-1 maybe in 21?

    Chris SpenceChris Spence27 päivää sitten
  • Not sure if any team will pick Bottas if fail to get a Mercedes seat. In 7 years hi never threten Hamilton and he got only 9 wins in a dominant car. Max got 10 wins in a second slower car. Sorry , not good enough.

    mircea miclosmircea miclosUukausi sitten
  • Neither of them will be happy with that label. Not even a little bit. Especially Perez. There will be fireworks next year. Cant wait

    L BL BUukausi sitten
  • 24 minutes on Red Bull, Perez & Verstappen, how Checo is not hired to beat Verstappen Blah, Blah, Blah and wait for it: Sainz is hired as a Number 2 driver as if its a Scandal that Ferrari would do such a thing, you have lost all credibility at this stage, what Top Team has Equal Drivers without a No.1 Driver,: allowed to race without being told to move over or slow down in Mercs. Case. The Answer is None: Hamiliton, Verstappen, LeClerc, Alonso, Riciardo, "Vettel" Stroll in 2020, Russell. Shumacher. They are all No1 drivers in their respective teams and will get Upgrades through out the year which in Stroll's case was worth 3 tenths faster than Perez in 2020, and if you don't believe that then you don't know F1.

    Tony O DonnellTony O DonnellUukausi sitten
  • Who told you they are Number 2...???

    ChameleonThe13ChameleonThe13Uukausi sitten
  • If you’re faster, you’ll (eventually) have the team’s support. That simple.

    blkmamba824blkmamba8242 kuukautta sitten
  • Opinion: checo, yes Carlos, no

    Ryan BocchinoRyan Bocchino2 kuukautta sitten
  • Simple answer : Carlos Sainz yes , Sergio Perez NO

    Will LeonardWill Leonard2 kuukautta sitten
  • Great job everyone. I really appreciate the more professional analysis. The delivery through a podcast form is perfect for me, too

    sonson2 kuukautta sitten
  • 39:52 .. this part the people only think this way .. because skysports f1 speak like this and push this agenda !! if your not winning then you need to go .m there fast to jump the gun with alot of 2nd drivers if there beat

    Sam DavidSam David2 kuukautta sitten
  • ⁉️ QUESTION ⁉️ ... Do you guys think if max and Perez get good start very close on points where Perez could fight for drivers championship or even just beat max .. do you think redbull will expect him to be number 2 ! Regardless.. ? and help max get max points for him to win ? As he's waiting for the car to do this .. like Perez team radio move over let max frew ? Or behind closed doors told max is priority .. I could imagine this to be the case don't think he will get fair crack at it

    Sam DavidSam David2 kuukautta sitten
  • look with Danny rick he was beating him regularly to redbull favorite max. when max started his crashing into him if couldn't pass or drama behind doors blame game .. don't think max is as amazing as people make out. ! Hes not rully had decent team mate other than daniel rick for little while . And car always 2nd- 3rd best yes max quality driver but alot of people down play Perez !! Man not a rookie or young inexperienced driver i 😂😂 can't wait see max blame the car or something in the race when he's beat by him in the season I not even a perz fan but just don't think max is all that

    Sam DavidSam David2 kuukautta sitten
  • Odds are favoring Perez IMO.

    Edison73100Edison731002 kuukautta sitten
  • good thing about perez is he is not a push over and likes to take the bull by it horns and when it will be in his favour he won't hesitate to take it from max.

    lexus lfalexus lfa2 kuukautta sitten
  • Sainz no perez no

    Mollie LimMollie Lim2 kuukautta sitten
  • Hands up who's gears are grinding every time Alpine, is pronounced, Alpeen. Anyone for a peen tree?

    Frank TriggsFrank Triggs2 kuukautta sitten
    • 😂

      Sam DavidSam David2 kuukautta sitten
  • No Perez will not help at all not better than albon. Sainz is the new bottas for Ferrari

    COSMOS 2017COSMOS 20172 kuukautta sitten
  • Every team is falling in line and employing a clear number one and number two driver strategy. This works well if you are Mercedes and the second driver doesn't necessarily need to be that quick in order to secure second place, however with how enormously competitive the midfield will be this year, from Redbull all the way down to Alpha Tauri, it may have been a better strategy for the teams to have aimed for two top drivers in their line-up's despite the fact that two top drivers does cause internal conflict.

    Ben BenboiBen Benboi2 kuukautta sitten
  • Still no Hamilton contract!?

    Shifty MaloneShifty Malone2 kuukautta sitten
  • Anyone still suggesting that Max Verstappen should change his driving style???????

    Jeroen BonsJeroen Bons2 kuukautta sitten
  • Only Max maximizes everything.

    Jeroen BonsJeroen Bons2 kuukautta sitten
    • Checo: Hold my bear,Jeroen...!

      ChameleonThe13ChameleonThe13Uukausi sitten
  • If Max and Sergio are able to split the Merc's, they may be get a shot to become World Champion in 2021...

    RDWRDW2 kuukautta sitten
  • I watch a fair stack of your videos, somehow I’ve never heard you promote the podcast.

    Andrew Carfax-FosterAndrew Carfax-Foster2 kuukautta sitten
  • 1 hour of empty talk. The answer is yes but they are just backups they cant achieve more

    Ufuk YanmazUfuk Yanmaz2 kuukautta sitten
  • whats the bet on perez winning first GP of the season? or is the bet on george winning the first GP in a merc?... lol

    ken largeken large2 kuukautta sitten
  • the day that max has a big accident willbe the day that max works out he is no better than his father and what was jose best finish ,,, nineth place

    Tribal MagicTribal Magic2 kuukautta sitten
  • Lol at the bants! Hughes gets pulled up for pronouncing Book correctly instead of "Buk". But no one mentions Mitchell's " frwee" instead of "Three".. good work guys keep the content coming

    Andy RayAndy Ray2 kuukautta sitten
    • Yea I was thinking the same hehe

      AndyRayAndyRay2 kuukautta sitten
  • Hey THE RACE, thanks a million for posting this to FIboth!! Lovin it!

    TByromTByrom2 kuukautta sitten
  • Both and Max and Charles joined RB & F as, in effect, No.2 drivers. It was their performances that elevated them and eventually forced out their then team mate. If Perez and Sainz outdrives their teamates, they will be No.1's ... its all about consistancy and results! 🔴

    Steelasophical Steel Band DjSteelasophical Steel Band Dj2 kuukautta sitten
  • No they cannot

    Stuart MarshallStuart Marshall2 kuukautta sitten
  • Of course, Pérez and Sainz will more than ¨number twos¨at Red and Ferrari, considering their experience, big talents and driving skills.

    Hugo Diaz GarciaHugo Diaz Garcia2 kuukautta sitten
  • If Perez is able to get the RB16B on the two front rows consistently with his skill set this should get interesting. 🤔

    Phantom096Phantom0962 kuukautta sitten
  • Would be funny when Sainz is faster than Leclrec

    DreamyDreamy2 kuukautta sitten
  • Sainz has always been an underdog. He kept verstappen honest in the torro rosso and has come a long way. He is consistent possibly more consistent than Leclerc. And I think will surprise people. Similarly Perez on contra strategy and race consistency will also challenge max at time too.

    David MartinDavid Martin2 kuukautta sitten
  • No means no

    Darshan GDarshan G2 kuukautta sitten
  • The wrong end of Brexit, nice one...

    Nat JesNat Jes2 kuukautta sitten
  • For the book question, I think it’s got to be Alonso for me. A long and successful career with lots of controversies, politics and great stories which would be brilliant to learn more about

    Michael SandersonMichael Sanderson2 kuukautta sitten
  • Please do upload this more

    classyfennclassyfenn2 kuukautta sitten
  • Why is no one talking about red bull probably not having an Engine supplier for 2021 🤷‍♂️

    LenLen2 kuukautta sitten
    • They have Honda.

      mircea miclosmircea miclosUukausi sitten
  • Perez not a chance

    Max TMax T2 kuukautta sitten
  • Glad it's on FIboth, I keep forgetting to check for podcasts.

    elfwaldelfwald2 kuukautta sitten
  • Perez is a Sunday man... Even if he doesn't get podium position on Saturdays & finish up in 4th, 5th or 6th...he will come back & fight for podium.... It's a game on for Mercedes....

    kaushal shindekaushal shinde2 kuukautta sitten
  • Will Lando be a #2 to Daniel? I don't think so...

    Chris BaileyChris Bailey2 kuukautta sitten
  • All this talking is 100% useless! we shall wait till the season starts... but really, what is the point of 'predicting' what will happen, that is not even fun and I am starting to think is kind of annoying, also drivers will never see this kind of videos... let them do the talking in the track, pointless.

    David LanasDavid Lanas2 kuukautta sitten
  • why is this a 50 minute video to say "No"

    Noah SkermanNoah Skerman2 kuukautta sitten
  • Heinz-Harald Frentzen; I want to hear his story.

    censordiscensordis2 kuukautta sitten
    • Please have him in your podcast.

      censordiscensordis2 kuukautta sitten
  • Perez is like a replacement Mark Webber for Redbull.

    ToomuchdebtToomuchdebt2 kuukautta sitten
  • Seeing the title and duration of the video, I just opened it to make this comment: How pathetic is my life if I wanna spend 50 whole minutes of it listening about whether Perez and Sainz can be more than number twos at their teams?

    RunawayRunaway2 kuukautta sitten
  • How can you compare Carlos with Perez.... there's no comparison... and on the question... the way Ferrari is now.. there will not be a number 1 and numer 2 drivers... both Ferrari drivers will be number 2.... and on the Perez issue... Perez will be as good as Max... and there's a good chance that even better... I've been following Perez all his career and he's a driver that has the skills and the hunger to win... also he has the experience Max lacks...

    arizonarafaarizonarafa2 kuukautta sitten
  • They can show those whippersnappers a thing or two.

    Dawoud Abdul AzizDawoud Abdul Aziz2 kuukautta sitten
  • Sergio Perez, 2021 World Champion! Imagine that :)

    Steven HullSteven Hull2 kuukautta sitten
  • Notice how there is no clear number one at Mercedes !!!

    Vivian NewmanVivian Newman2 kuukautta sitten
  • By keeping a difficult car to drive, Redbull will make it more difficult to win a championship (constructors). Mercedes is that great because both Bottas and Sir Ham. can extract every drop of racing water out of the package. So, I agree with Gasly and the others argument.

    Vivian NewmanVivian Newman2 kuukautta sitten
  • Short answer. No. They're both A- drivers up against A+ drivers.

    Todd SherleyTodd Sherley2 kuukautta sitten
  • ima be real both of them are against stronger drivers than at their previous teams so I doubt they will more than a number two

    thejoeygthejoeyg2 kuukautta sitten
  • My driver sergio fights for 1 ,no matter what ....if downhill his career goes he is not gona settle for less... Max shud not understimate a hungry desperate and late blooming n igniting to its brightest form ❤️❤️❤️

    brain eaterbrain eater2 kuukautta sitten
  • Newey designed redbull cars have this tendency to struggle during early part of the season and improves once the season progresses and they become extremely strong by the end of the season. We have seen that couple of times.. 2020 , 2019 and 2018 are examples of that. Real problem is the rule changes. End of 2018 they had the fastest car , but there was the front changes for 19 which we they struggled with. Even in 2021, they have to cop up with 2021 rule changes. So I think car designs shouldn't be changing every year. They should freeze it for sometime or years so that the teams will have some chances of carrying the car performance from previous years.

    Ajith NairAjith Nair2 kuukautta sitten
  • Enjoyed that fellas. 👍🏻

    Oliver CourtOliver Court2 kuukautta sitten
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    carboncitizenscarboncitizens2 kuukautta sitten
  • I think Ferrari and Red Bull want to beat Mercedes so badly that they will not slot the new drivers into a number 2 slot.

    Josh JessJosh Jess2 kuukautta sitten
  • Sainz and Leclerc will probably be more like Kimi and Massa in 07 and 08, very similar on performance I think

    No PomegranatesNo Pomegranates2 kuukautta sitten
  • The car is number 2 at Ferrari

    tom lathroptom lathrop2 kuukautta sitten
  • No and NO

    Siddharth SharmaSiddharth Sharma2 kuukautta sitten
  • If they're not number twos, they can be number one point fives

    eugene the beaneugene the bean2 kuukautta sitten
  • Please continue to put the podcast on FIboth 👍🏼

    Avin MaharajAvin Maharaj2 kuukautta sitten
  • I think Sainz could cause problems at Ferrari. LeClerc is "the guy of the future" and the pressure will all be on him. I disagree with many comments here thinking that Perez will do well against Verstappen. Racing Point underperformed last year with the pink mercedes, with Perez's form being flattered by the the fact that Stroll is shit. Many Max haters here, but he's been the best and fastest driver on the grid since the second half of 2018. He's going to destroy Sergio.

    nate clipsnate clips2 kuukautta sitten
    • Also don’t underestimate leclerc if car is better than last year it will suit him and you will see fewer errors

      Mohit AnandMohit Anand2 kuukautta sitten
  • why is the music so loud?

    keegankeegan2 kuukautta sitten
  • TL;DW no.

    Simone GarauSimone Garau2 kuukautta sitten
  • I hope they try to be more than number will make the F1 more interesting. But for both it will be very hard to be faster than their team mate...but not impossible.

    Reinier NNReinier NN2 kuukautta sitten
  • I hope Perez can take it to Max this year. I want to see him routinely ahead of golden boy, it would be interesting to see how RB responds to that. I already know how Max will respond. I think the situation at Ferrari is different. I don't think Charles is as ruthless (or arrogant) as Max and will be more welcoming. I expect to see the two Ferrari's racing each other closely and fairly.

    Unholy MuppetUnholy Muppet2 kuukautta sitten
  • Leclerc is overrated

    adam adamadam adam2 kuukautta sitten
  • the only driver with more motivation than Perez is Bottas, this is his very last chance thats for sure, i honestly hope he wins the world championship, that would really be a sticky situation for Toto then, hehe

    Evol lovEEvol lovE2 kuukautta sitten
    • No way! Bottas was born with no 2 on his forehead!

      ChameleonThe13ChameleonThe13Uukausi sitten
  • Team Orders will be to assist the 1st when possible and win alone when necessary.....same as every 2nd driver deal. Picking up the scraps left by the lead driver is an art in itself. Perez will be an exemplary teammate. Classy guy.

    Christopher Robin GarrishChristopher Robin Garrish2 kuukautta sitten
  • no.

    Enzo MAEnzo MA2 kuukautta sitten
  • You should put all your podcasts on FIboth. Bigger audience for Bring Back V10s!

    tb3420tb34202 kuukautta sitten
  • Actually, it never dawned on me that two Spanish-speaking drivers are at the helm of two top teams each with arguably two of the best and youngest F1 team leaders. I'm giving the edge to Perez & Verstappen even if Ferrari figures out its problems.

    Nick BurakNick Burak2 kuukautta sitten
  • What a load of knob-ends you all are. All year the pundits were slagging Albon off, and here we are 10 minutes later saying ok boys, you need to be realist about your chances. Albon finished P7 last year, totally decent by any measure. The way you old farts are taking seems like you expect nothing better from either of these two. Uggh. Nose, end, can't see beyond.

    Jonathan ChesterJonathan Chester2 kuukautta sitten
  • There both agreuably Better all round drivers. Perez can help rb win a constructers title Sainz needs time ⌚ with that 💩 box of a Ferrari

    JR’s SimRacingJR’s SimRacing2 kuukautta sitten
  • The problem that Carlos faces on he's 2-year contract is Mick Schumacher...

    Cadrian SithebeCadrian Sithebe2 kuukautta sitten
  • The interesting one to watch will be Bottas I feel - with Ferrari and Red Bull now have two proper drivers I think Bottas will be under severe scrutiny this coming season -

    mark dancemark dance2 kuukautta sitten
    • Lol bottas car is still way too superior to the rest

      יהודים זבליהודים זבל2 kuukautta sitten
    • @Darren Morris Bottas has a contract for this season coming - as for Lewis this season I’m willing to bet Merc don’t re sign him just got this feeling

      mark dancemark dance2 kuukautta sitten
    • Surely Bottas won't be in a Merc next season unless Lewis quits.

      Darren MorrisDarren Morris2 kuukautta sitten
  • Carlos Sainz was just a replacement for Vettel. He is not a Ferrari man and he is not going to be treated better or equal to Leclerc. Remember they are always willing to shaft one driver in favor of the other.

    MegaSturrupMegaSturrup2 kuukautta sitten
  • 21:30 bull*#$t Scott.. because as a racing driver surely Perez would be thinking "wait a minute, why is my car a tenth and a half off"

    RottieShep CALIBRERottieShep CALIBRE2 kuukautta sitten
  • I think Sainz might be a nasty surprise for Ferrari. He’s expressed his intent to be the best. If that car is better sorted, he could assert himself.

    Tyler AndersonTyler Anderson2 kuukautta sitten
  • Carlos will give Charles a run for his money. Sergio will be like Botas.

    esphi LEEesphi LEE2 kuukautta sitten
  • Wait a minute... I got to about 9:20 and Scott said the unimaginable.. "Perez doesn't need to beat Verstappen" what! try telling him that.. these dudes are combat ready.. and they all believe that they are the supreme soldier

    RottieShep CALIBRERottieShep CALIBRE2 kuukautta sitten
  • Leclerc Sainz is the most exciting Line up in Ferrari since Raikkonen Massa in 2007

    king dodongoking dodongo2 kuukautta sitten
  • Answer: Yes Long Answer: But the teams won't let them even if they tried.

    TeeFFWTeeFFW2 kuukautta sitten
    • My thoughts eggs-ack-lee. And if they tried IDT they have the talent to pull it off. Certainly not Perez against Max. I don't know enough about Sainz to be sure but IDT he will give LeClerc much trouble.

      Scott deLongScott deLong2 kuukautta sitten
    • Nah

      LIL IBRALIL IBRA2 kuukautta sitten
  • Well Perez does not have a choice, it he shows he is faster they will dial him back. Now Sainz I think will do just like Lewis did and outpace his teammate...

    Woody ConawayWoody Conaway2 kuukautta sitten
  • I never realised you guys had a sense of humour, more please

    - iMARA- iMARA2 kuukautta sitten
  • Not if they want to keep thier drives, no

    HastarHastar2 kuukautta sitten
  • 45:40 Jim Clark What if Jim Clark Survived 1968? Fan fiction by superb content creator "Aidan Millward". Is here on FIboth. It's worth trying to find, IMO.

    Dorleys FlirDorleys Flir2 kuukautta sitten
    • @TeeFFW I don't interact with him either, he recently said he's got a fairly full schedule in real life and perhaps that's part of the reason? I do enjoy his Story Time and reasoned analysis of situations, I think he shares some good insights.

      Dorleys FlirDorleys Flir2 kuukautta sitten
    • Too bad the guy is allergic to feedback. Interesting videos, just don't interact with him.

      TeeFFWTeeFFW2 kuukautta sitten
  • What happen to Albon ?

    Mr_ AkmalMr_ Akmal2 kuukautta sitten
    • testdriver for Red Bull, maybe replacing if one of the drivers test positiv.

      Reinier NNReinier NN2 kuukautta sitten
  • I don't think they'll be winning or even hunting podiums each race but they should make their teams more consistent for the constructors championship. A consistent 4th or 5th will be great over a whole season.

    Chris FloydChris Floyd2 kuukautta sitten
  • Short answer: No Long answer: This will sadly not be possible, as their respective teams nr 1 driver is the future of the team regardless what happens

    SbinottoSbinotto2 kuukautta sitten
  • Sounds like the Mobil 1 the Grid intro

    Greg MayledGreg Mayled2 kuukautta sitten
  • I think both perez and sainz will outperform their teammates, I hope they do beat them

    Taurus belosTaurus belos2 kuukautta sitten
  • Yes but actually no

    Vandan SonkarVandan Sonkar2 kuukautta sitten
  • Charles and Max: They can be 1.69s ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Shivam KapoorShivam Kapoor2 kuukautta sitten
  • The question is was RIC much better than GAS/ALB or did VES grow during the years and will now be also much better then RIC?

    You TubeYou Tube2 kuukautta sitten
    • @Infinity4074 yes i think so too

      You TubeYou Tube2 kuukautta sitten
  • Why does Perez have to go into this as a supplicant in Verstappen's presence, like he just has to be happy to be there? Does he have to shine his shoes and wash his car too?

    gorviv529gorviv5292 kuukautta sitten